Event Rules

Event Specific Rules

Spinning WILL NOT BE allowed in height events.

Forks – For safety reasons, only commercially manufactured forks will be allowed. No homemade forks or forks with welded braces or tines are allowed. The middle tine may be removed.

Safety is the reason for not allowing modified forks.  There are instances of non modified forks’  middle tine breaking off as well as instances where the bag goes shooting into a crowd.  The combination could make for a lethal combination.  The ADs do not want to be put in the position of judging throwers modifications, thus, the error on the safety side.

Sheafs – A 10# bag will be used for women. If A’s and women throw together, the men will throw theclevenger 20# bag.  Open Division may use the 16 lb bag.  Jason Cleveneger Sheafs are used.

 

The wearing of Kilt is required for all but first time throwers.  AD may waive this but do not count on it

Two Handed Stone Throw Rules

Rules for the Two handed Stone Throw for Distance with unlimited approach with out follow:

  1. The total weight of the implement will be Approximately 70 lbs for men and 35 lbs for women.
    These are lighter than normal as we do not have a sand landing pit to accurately mark the landing spot.  Lighter weights should provide greater spreads between resulting throws.
  2. The weight shall be thrown off grass, from behind the 4.5 foot mark or trig.
  3. The weight shall be thrown with one or both hands and without follow. In other words, the contestant cannot step over the line.
  4. The competitor my take as long of an approach as desired not to exceed 20 yards.
  5. Any style may be used to throw the stone as long as it is deemed safe by the judge.
  6. At no time during the throw, and not until the weight has been discharged into the air, may a competitor turn completely around, so that the back is towards the landing area or direction of throw.  In other words, NO SPINNING
  7. It is open to the competitor to throw with or without a run or approach.
  8. The thrower may place one foot or both feet upon the mark or board, but if either foot passes the mark entirely before the implement strikes the ground the throw is invalid.  In other words, if a line is used, the line is considered in bounds.
  9. Measurement:  center of trig measuring will NOT be used.  The measurement of the throw shall be from the point at which the weight first strikes the ground to the inside edge of trig or outside edge of the line (when line is used) closest to the throwers center of stance.
  10. Side line fouls will apply and are the same as Braemar or Open stone throw.  There will be no back line foul.
  11. Each thrower will receive three attempts, with the longest counting as the mark for the contest.

Normal Throwing Rules

This contest will be judged under United Scottish Athletic Directors (USAD) rules.  These rules are similar to NASGA, RMSA, and Carlos Borges authored (SHA & SAAA) rules.  The differences are listed below along with my  explanation of why they are different.

In Control – Not all rule sets have the “The competitor will complete the throw under control as decided by the judge or the throw will be ruled a foul.” clause. However, USAD rules does.

The minimum for under control is that your hands and feet can hit the ground but no other part of your body can.

Your judge may have a stricter/different definition, don’t be afraid to ask… this rule is nothing new, I just want to clarifying the difference from rule sets who do not have this clause.

I have been told this rule was created for Brian Oldfield style of throwing the weight.  I have seen two versions of his throws, one where he winds the weight like a slow pitch softball player and then enters the spin and the other where he winds the weight  around his head followed by a full discus spin.  Both ended with a release that had Oldfield landing on the ground in a push up position.  I am not sure if Oldfield is the reason for this rule or whether that is an urban legion.

Permission to stop the throw motion – In many ways, it is impossible for the judge to respond fast enough to grant the thrower permission to stop.  So why do rule sets treat it as a privilege rather than a right?

When permission is asked, the judge has a point in time to judge whether a foul has occurred.  This allows the competitor to use means of stopping his motion that may other wise be considered a foul.

Asking for permission shows respect to the judge.

Measurements —  Plant foot measuring maybe used to limit the side throws on this small field that can occur when measuring to the center of the trig.

Distance Event Ties — Distance events ties will not be broken. This is not controversial until your in a tie. The reasons behind this rule are many fold:

      1. When ties are broken, the factor determining place is no longer the competitors longest throw.
      2. Tradition –  In many games in Scotland, the longest throw for each competitor is marked with flags and only that throw is measured. Thus, no tie breaking.

Height Event Ties — Ties for height events will be broken based on the number of misses at the prior height. When a tie involves passes, the pass will not help and/or hurt the competitor. This basically means that when a height which is involved in the tie-breaking process has a pass, that height is ignored.

I will agree that this does generate some goofy rankings.  However, I do not think passing should be treated equally to those who had attempted and made that height.

Some rules/interpretations treat a tie as if the pass was a make on the first attempt.

This rewards the thrower for taking the risk of passing and making it at the next height, while punishing a thrower who expends the effort and makes the attempt.

Why not treat the pass as if it was made on the 2nd or 3rd attempt? What is the justification of treating it as passing on the first attempt?

Some would say treating a pass as if it was made on the 3rd attempt seems more logical since the passing thrower did not expend any energy.

Others say treating it as if it was a pass but behind the 3rd attempt would award the try and punish the passer.

If an AD was to use another style of tie breaking, the AD would have to clearly communicate those rules to the throwers.  The AD would also factor in whether it will slow down the height events.

Lines of a throwing boxes are in bounds –  Throwing boxes are painted so that the outside edge of the painted line is 4’6″ apart. Stepping on the line is considered in, but stepping partially over the line is considered out. Two consecutive steps outside of the box is considered a foot foul. Additionally, stepping over the back line is also considered a foot foul.

This is not really a rule change but a matter of agreement on how the boxes would be painted on the ground.

Cabers – Keeping a good Caber inventory is always tough. There is the compromise of letting local throwers practice with them while worrying about breakage for the games. I strive to have enough variety so that there are a few to pick from for each throwing division.

Cabers will be done with a qualifier and a scoring caber. Three tries at the qualifier, if you can’t turn it,  you don’t move on to scoring caber.

If you have positive or negative input on these rules. Please let me know.

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